Thursday 11 June 2015

"More edge, passion and yes even some drama..."

"Tango passion" PxHere


Back here I said I wanted to address another point that came out this discussion on Tanda of the Week.

Antti, the owner of that blog said:

There's nothing wrong with the occasional special selection and the Donatos and Lomutos etc. But many DJ's go so far into centering their set around the likes of Canaro, Donato, Rodriguez and some Guardia Vieja that the set feels out of balance and the occasional Troilo will not save the set for me. And it is not just that I don't get to hear my favorites but also the fact that the general mood and dynamics of the songs from these orchestras is so different that I feel like a lot of the passion that should be in the music is missing and instead all we're getting is at it's best nice and comfortable music for snuggling. I do want a lot more from my tango music. More edge, passion and yes even some drama. And yeah uptempo valses and milongas too. And then... I'm ready to snuggle also.

I found this idea bizarre  - and interesting.  Why would somebody talk about snuggling and cuddling in the milonga?  I don't feel that.  What is it like to dance tango?  Well, at the very least, for me it has nothing do with cuddling.

Many DJs play the orchestras he refers to (with some disparagement), in balance with the stronger pieces in say Troilo, D'Arienzo, Biagi, De Angelis, Tanturi because they feel dancers like a balance.  Guardia Vieja apart, there's a lot going on I think in good tracks of the orchestras he mentioned and in others which, at a guess he might have mentioned - OTV, Carabelli, Quinteto Don Pancho, (though by Quinteto Pirincho the magic, apart from in vals, has gone for me).   I might not want to hear all of those orchestras in one night, and only one tanda of those I do hear.  But I don't dance these orchestras, or any, because I want to cuddle.  I remember reading somebody writing about their own "snuggly embrace" in a lip-licking way. Yuck.  If we want to cuddle, we stay with our nearest and dearest on the sofa or in bed - if anything it's about not moving.  We cuddle our lovers and our children, not people we dance with, not even - usually - our friends.  We hug our friends. We embrace our dance partners. I think these are all different.  The embrace when you dance tango isn't sexual or about vertical cuddling, but it is intimate.

There is a very fundamental difference between an embrace and a connection in dance with a stranger (or friend) and a cuddle.  I don't know that I can think of the similarities beyond body contact.  You can't even say when you cuddle another that they have your full attention as I find is the case in dancing tango.  You might be snuggled with your significant other watching TV!  You can cuddle a baby to sleep while having a conversation with someone else - in fact I found that tends to work well!

I don't dance to cuddle and I don't know that I know personally anyone that does, at least in public. Occasionally a woman will find herself, frozen like a rabbit in headlights in the embrace of a guy for whom dance is clearly the last thing on his mind but the milonga is such a public environment I think that kind of thing is relatively uncommon, at least in the UK and the reputation of such people goes around so quickly that their life-span in the milonga is probably going to be short.

I did once hear dancing in a milonga to Lomuto's Las cuarenta described memorably as "unendurable huddle-shuffle".  It's a perfectly good track, but a lot depends on how these pieces are danced.  Watch any dancing crowd.  Does the energy, the tone of somebody's dance change at all, with the track?  If the sound were turned off, could you tell the differences between tracks in the way they are danced? Could you make a guess at the kind of music - by descriptor, not necessarily by name?

All the music by the different orchestras have different feelings about them.  Some are playful, some sad, some dramatic, some fevered, some soft, some light, some strong, some sweet, some dignified.  Antti said it himself:

"A lot of the music [of orchestras such as Lomuto, Rodriguez, Donato ] is cute, funny, nice, quirky, lovely, soft, smooth, simplified, strange etc.... but not much more."

Well, goodness, I think that's quite a lot!  But put that with the feelings from the line before and how much more feeling can there be? But that's why I believe good trad sets are balanced - for that spectrum of music and musical feeling, depending too, on the crowd and other variables like time of day and the type of event.

Upon challenge Antti did say "The words "snuggly" or "cuddly" don't propably cover very well what I tried to describe " so on the strength of that I am going to try hard not to mention that word again. But I bring it up, not just for this but because I have noticed lately, in some quarters a general dressing-down of the idea of connection in tango dance in favour of, well, I'm not quite sure what - show I think.

I for one, like a range of feeling in music.  The reason I like a whole range of orchestras and a range of music because different music gives different feelings.

Often it's just hard to say what the feeling is besides "I really want to dance this" or "I really want to dance this, but only with him or her". I can't say what kind of feeling I have when I hear D'Arienzo's Mandria.  I just know I have a certain kind of feeling and I want to dance it.  How very much depends on the feeling my partner has.  When we dance locally we may know who will have or not, a similar feeling to us about certain music.  I know who likes Canaro, who Fresedo, who Biagi, who Lomuto vals, who is better at vals than all else and the guys who can dance milonga.  It's not surprising that we want to dance music with the people who love it and feel it distinctively.  A girl invited me to dance Di Sarli in the guy's role and I did, though I would not have invited anyone to it because that kind of Di Sarli isn't my thing.  You always know you're faking a dance when you find yourself going through the motions, when it feels like work, when you are moving yourself through the music rather then the music moving you.  I didn't feel I danced it that well.  Afterwards, we danced Troilo-Fiorentino, which I liked a lot and, no surprise, she said it was completely different.

Maybe the feeling is different for everyone, but that doesn't matter, because you don't need to say or to analyse whether your feeling is like someone elses, because somehow you find an accommodation and you dance the music and the feelings you get from it. You communicate with your body, what you feel to another person and that is where this magical accommodation and response and movement  happens in ways I for sure can't explain.  The embrace is the way we communicate that feeling well. Good connection is when your bodies somehow fit and feel the same music, the same way.

When we read a novel, or even hear another person's story -  we  see another perspective.  At the cinema, depending on the degree to which one can suspend disbelief, it lets us inhabit another story, try on different personae.  The words and images bring the actions, experiences and the feelings of the characters closer, allowing us to empathise or recoil from them.

Dancing different music  lets us enter different feelings, temporarily .  More, in fact, than reading a novel because in that medium you are the "fly on the wall" to the thoughts and action of others.  In dance you actually inhabit this feeling for a time. This feeling comes naturally and then, with luck - and the cortina - it clears and you can dance another.

Incidentally - here's Oscar Hector Malagrino dancing beautifully in a way suitable for social dancing with Haydée Esther Malagrino to I think a good Di Sarli, that's fairly soft, although it has energy.  He is dancing with his sister but it's hardly what I'd call cuddling, or anything remotely like it.

Wednesday 3 June 2015

NEWS - DJ Johan Steyn (Dublin) shares his set from the Edinburgh International Tango Festival

I am very pleased that DJ Johan Steyn in Dublin has agreed to share his setlist publicly.  He told me he used to provide a paper version of his sets in the days before he improvised.  Johan DJd at the recent Edinburgh International Tango Festival and this set is the one from the Saturday night there.  You can also hear Johan in interview here.

My hope is that more DJs will share their sets too and combat the needless and counter-productive culture of secrecy there is around music which is after all very familiar.   There are several reasons why it useful to share any set:  dancers who are considering travel to a distant milonga can see what kind of music a DJ there plays; dancers can learn more about music and it lets new DJs in the community see tandas and consider whether those tracks and tandas  have that dancing feeling that makes them more popular with people on the floor than tandas that don't.

It is a good thing for dancers, organisers and DJs when there are more DJs playing in more milongas with more good music around.  More local milongas clustered together at a weekend means more people without that healthy local growth coming to those milongas at weekends instead of say, disappearing off to more expensive, rather artificial, pre-book-only European encuentros.  And of course it means more people staying local where there is music and dancing worth staying locally for, instead of travelling away to find it. 

Seeing a set is not useful for the purposes of copying tandas wholesale because there would be no engagement with the music that way and you would learn nothing.  But this argument is obviously an insufficient one against sharing.  Good sets can give you ideas and pointers.  Having a set is better than not having a set. All you need to apply to any set is your own judgement. 

I must have started to listen properly to the music pretty early after starting classes because I  listened to 24/7 trad tango radio for months and I find a note that tells me within six months of beginning classes I had moved on from that to using an online music provider that someone had told me about.  I used that to listen to everything available there by the most famous orchestras, starring the tracks I thought were good. Some I'd heard before, some I hadn't.  I realised later that most of what I'd starred is conventionally seen as good and popular trad, heard often in milongas, even in poor ones that may not play tandas or cortinas.  It's not a hard exercise. You just pick out the tracks that you know and that really make you feel like dancing.  I think anyone who listens can do it.  After that if you're interested in DJing the next step is to make tandas, and that's where published sets can be most helpful although they're not absolutely necessary.   I was very lucky at around that point to find Chris's published sets and spent hours working through them, track by track, tanda by tanda. You just keep on applying your own judgement to the tandas you see and matching those against the tracks you've already considered are good for dancing, grouping tracks into families with similar feel so you can then start to make your own tandas.

There's more after that, but that's how I started to be interested in the music. What puzzles me is that often DJs pick tracks I find not very danceable yet match them very well with similarly undanceable tracks when really it is the matching that ought to be harder than the choosing tracks in the first place. For that you need only listen to the music and the feeling it produces in your own self.

Ask your DJ if they will publish their sets.  If not, ask why.  Answers - or lack of them - can be revealing. 

So without more ado here is Johan's set...



T 1928 Quemá esas cartas               Osvaldo Fresedo         Ernesto Famá
T 1928 Llevátelo todo                  Osvaldo Fresedo         Ernesto Famá
T 1928 Alma en pena                    Osvaldo Fresedo         Ernesto Famá
T 1928 Esta noche me emborracho        Osvaldo Fresedo         Ernesto Famá

T 1935 Elegante papirusa               Edgardo Donato
T 1938 Cantando bajito                 Edgardo Donato
T 1938 Tiempos bravos                  Edgardo Donato
T 1938 El estagiario                   Edgardo Donato

V 1938 Dime que sí                     Francisco Lomuto        Jorge Omar
V 1937 Ay, mi nena                     Francisco Lomuto        Jorge Omar
V 1938 Ti pi tin                       Francisco Lomuto        Jorge Omar
V 1938 Valse de la fisarmonica         Francisco Lomuto

T 1945 Ivón                            Ricardo Tanturi         Enrique Campos
T 1945 Cuatro lágrimas                 Ricardo Tanturi         Enrique Campos
T 1945 De seis a siete                 Ricardo Tanturi         Enrique Campos
T 1945 La uruguayita Lucía             Ricardo Tanturi         Enrique Campos

T 1936 El amanecer                     Roberto Firpo
T 1937 El compinche                    Roberto Firpo
T 1937 Didí                            Roberto Firpo
T 1937 La murra                        Roberto Firpo

M 1935 De pura cepa                    Juan D'Arienzo
M 1937 La puñalada                     Juan D'Arienzo
M 1938 El esquinazo                    Juan D'Arienzo

T 1930 El gavilán                      Francisco Canaro
T 1930 Pajarito cantor                 Francisco Canaro
T 1931 El opio                         Francisco Canaro
T 1931 Tipo loco                       Francisco Canaro

T 1943 Ya sale el tren                 Miguel Caló             Jorge Ortiz
T 1943 Barrio de tango                 Miguel Caló             Jorge Ortiz
T 1943 A las siete en el café          Miguel Caló             Jorge Ortiz
T 1943 Pa' que seguir                  Miguel Caló             Jorge Ortiz

V 1941 Qué me pasará                   Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
V 1942 Esquinas porteñas               Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
V 1942 Yo tengo una novia              Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
V 1944 El espejo de tus ojos           Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas

T 1929 Belén                           Carlos Di Sarli
T 1929 Pobre yo                        Carlos Di Sarli
T 1929 El calabozo                     Carlos Di Sarli
T 1929 No te aguanto más               Carlos Di Sarli

T 1942 La tablada                      Aníbal Troilo
T 1942 C.T.V.                          Aníbal Troilo
T 1942 La maleva                       Aníbal Troilo
T 1943 Pablo                           Aníbal Troilo

M 1937 Milonga de mis amores           Francisco Canaro
M 1936 Silueta porteña                 Francisco Canaro        Roberto Maida
M 1937 Milonga de antaño               Francisco Canaro

T 1942 Junto a tu corazón              José García             Alfredo Rojas
T 1943 Farolito de papel               José García             Alfredo Rojas
T 1943 Esta noche de luna              José García             Alfredo Rojas
T 1942 Fea                             José García             Alfredo Rojas

T 1940 No te quiero más                Enrique Rodríguez       Armando Moreno
T 1940 En la buena y en la mala        Enrique Rodríguez       Armando Moreno
T 1940 Contigo pan y cebolla           Enrique Rodríguez       Armando Moreno
T 1940 Al mal tiempo, buena cara       Enrique Rodríguez       Armando Moreno

V 1939 Déjame amarte aunque sea un día Rodolfo Biagi           Andrés Falgás
V 1939 Dichas que viví                 Rodolfo Biagi           Andrés Falgás
V 1938 Loca de amor                    Rodolfo Biagi           Teofilo Ibañeez
V 1941 Lágrimas y sonrisas             Rodolfo Biagi

T 1944 Saludos                         Domingo Federico
T 1944 Tu melodía                      Domingo Federico        Carlos Vidal
T 1944 Yuyo verde                      Domingo Federico        Carlos Vidal
T 1944 La culpa la tuve yo             Domingo Federico        Ignacio Díaz

T 1937 El porteñito                    Juan D'Arienzo
T 1937 El baquiano (El baqueano)       Juan D'Arienzo
T 1937 El africano                     Juan D'Arienzo
T 1937 El apronte                      Juan D'Arienzo

            ************ Dance Performances ************

M 1932 Milonga sentimental             Mercedes Simone         Mercedes Simone
M 1933 Cacareando                      Orquesta Típica Victor  Carlos Lafuente
M 1941 Mi vieja linda                  Emilio Pellejero        Enalmar De Maria

T 1941 Mishiadura                      Edgardo Donato
T 1939 Sinsabor                        Edgardo Donato          Horacio Lagos, Lita Morales
T 1940 La melodía del corazón          Edgardo Donato          Romeo Gavioli
T 1940 Mi serenata                     Edgardo Donato          Lita Morales, Romeo Gavioli

T 1943 Garúa                           Pedro Laurenz           Alberto Podestá
T 1943 Que nunca me falte              Pedro Laurenz           Alberto Podestá
T 1944 Como el hornero                 Pedro Laurenz           Alberto Podestá
T 1943 Todo                            Pedro Laurenz           Alberto Podestá

V 1945 El mismo dolor                  Miguel Caló             Raúl Iriarte
V 1942 Pedacito de cielo               Miguel Caló             Alberto Podestá
V 1942 El vals soñador                 Miguel Caló             Raúl Berón
V 1941 Bajo un cielo de estrellas      Miguel Caló             Alberto Podestá

T 1954 Nueve de julio                  Osvaldo Pugliese
T 1953 Seguime si podés                Osvaldo Pugliese
T 1954 Mi lamento                      Osvaldo Pugliese
T 1952 La Tupungatina                  Osvaldo Pugliese

T 1943 El cornetín del tranvía         Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
T 1943 El cardo azul                   Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
T 1943 Me llaman tango                 Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas
T 1943 Madre hay una sola              Angel D'Agostino        Ángel Vargas

T 1940 Pinta orillera                  Rodolfo Biagi           Jorge Ortiz
T 1940 Todo te nombra                  Rodolfo Biagi           Jorge Ortiz
T 1940 No le digas que la quiero       Rodolfo Biagi           Jorge Ortiz
T 1940 Quiero verte una vez más        Rodolfo Biagi           Jorge Ortiz

T 1941 El recodo                       Carlos Di Sarli
T 1941 Germaine                        Carlos Di Sarli
T 1941 Don Juan                        Carlos Di Sarli
T 1942 El amanecer                     Carlos Di Sarli
T 1955 La cumparsita                   Carlos Di Sarli